Olivia Talks GUTS on The Julia Show

Olivia Talks GUTS on The Julia Show

Less than a month after releasing the lead single off her forthcoming album, Olivia Rodrigo is already making history and we can’t even act like we’re surprised.

Rodrigo released the single vampire on June 30 and has since become the first artist to debut the lead single from each of her first two albums on the Billboard Hot 100 chart. So how’s she plan to celebrate?

“I think we’re gonna like, watch my favorite movie and go in the hot tub,” Olivia told Audacy’s Julia after sharing her Mom is currently staying at her house. “That sounds kind of lame, but that’s my dream celebration.”

Some good R&R is never lame if you ask us, especially after hearing how hard Rodrigo has been working on her new album GUTS, arriving September 8. Referring to the project as more “mature,” yet still a “sister” to her debut album SOUR, Olivia says she is excited to share her new, improved art with fans.

“This album is not a continuation of SOUR, but it’s definitely her sister and I’m the girl who wrote SOUR, just two years older and more mature, doing different things.”

“I really tried to improve my songwriting craft this time around. On SOUR everything was so sad and I was so emotional. I was just pouring my heart out into these songs… Not that I didn’t do that on this album, but I think I learned a little more of like, ‘This is how you polish up a song’ or ‘You can write a song in 30 minutes but maybe the next day you can tweak things.’ I think I really tied to focus on that this go–around.”

Rodrigo credits vampire for being a great example of the similarities and differences to come, which is exactly the reason she selected it to be the lead single.

“I think it’s not so completely out of left field when you look at SOUR and all of the things that we did there, but I also think that it’s a step forward and kind of hints at everything that’s to come in the next album.”

While selecting the song as the lead single was a no–brainer for the 20–year–old, some of the decisions surrounding which lyrics to use on the track didn’t come as easily.

“It was actually a debate whether ‘fame fucker’ should be in the song,” she admitted. “Some people said, ‘It kind of isolates you from people, you can’t really say things like that in song, it’s not relatable’ – yada yada yada.”

After admitting she “totally saw where they were coming from,” Rodrigo eventually decided to keep the head–turning term, which has quickly become a main staple of the song.

“I think it’s more about someone being manipulative and sucking you dry – using you for all your worth,” she expressed, sharing a deeper meaning behind the lyric. “I think that’s a universal theme, and I also think fame is more easily accessible now than it has ever been. It’s not just people in LA and and Hollywood that have to deal with that.”

While she decided to keep that line, Olivia did switch up a couple other lyrics from the original track, which can be heard exclusively on the vinyl versions.

Sisterly similarities between GUTS and SOUR aren’t limited to sonics and themes, fans will also see common ground within the artwork that Rodrigo says is an effort to keep cohesion throughout her career.

“I really just wanted to make things look cohesive. I love when artists can have cohesion throughout their career, not only cohesion throughout an album cycle,” she said, crediting The White Stripes for inspiring her with great execution of this idea.

As Rodrigo readies to spill her GUTS to the world come September, she says she is excited to show her growth and new–found confidence, not only as an artist, but personally as well.

“I feel like I grew 10 years in the years from 18 to 20,” she said. “I feel sure of who I am and what I want to do and what I want to say and the people I want to surround myself with… I’m still figuring lots of stuff out and thoroughly confused about lots of other aspects of life, but I’m definitely getting clear on more things.”

One thing she isn’t confused about is her favorite track on the upcoming album, and her answer has us ready to fast forward to September 8.

“The first song is my favorite, it’s kind of different sonically, it has a lot of dynamics,” she said. “It’s sort of my version of a riot girl punk song.”

Say no more, we’re deeming it our favorite song now, too!

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Audacy Check-In

Audacy Check-In

Joining us for a special Audacy Check In with host Bru today is 3X GRAMMY–winning singer Olivia Rodrigo as she gets ready to drop her sophomore album GUTS in just a few weeks.

It’s already an exciting time as the first single, vampire, from Olivia’s forthcoming 2023 album GUTS hit number one this week thanks to her ravenous fans. “I feel really lucky to have such awesome fans, and so many people who so graciously support me,” Olivia says, although she admits it was “a little bit daunting” releasing the first single, wondering what the fan reaction would be. “I really love the song,” she adds, “and I think that’s probably what matters the most. Everything else has just been icing on the cake, and it’s been wonderful.”

Written last winter, Olivia says she knew as soon as the piano chords began to take shape that there was something special happening with vampire. “The song was expressing something that I had been trying to express for a while but hadn’t up until that point,” she says. “I just feel like it’s a good introduction to the album. I feel like it’s not so far away from what I did in ‘SOUR,’ but it’s also introducing some new topics and new attitudes, and new sounds, and kind of hinting at a little bit of what’s to come.”

Ever since the release of her debut album SOUR in 2021, Olivia admits everything in her life has taken an abrupt left turn. “Oh my gosh… my life is so different. I owe so much to those songs and that album,” she says. “Now this is my bona fide job, I get to travel around the world and make music, make records that I love, and I just couldn’t think of a better situation. I feel very lucky… I’m really proud of that record, and I’m so grateful for all the doors that it’s opened.”

Olivia believes touring in support of SOUR and seeing the crowd’s reaction to certain songs helped in the creation of GUTS. Of course, she still gets nervous performing new music, revealing she’d rather play for a room of 5,000 people rather than five: “It’s kind of harder when it’s more intimate. I definitely do get stage fright. That hasn’t really gone away yet,” she says. To help calm her nerves, Olivia does “a little meditation… I thank the universe… and ask for a good show and I pray that people have a good time and that they take whatever they need to from the show.”

As fans know, Olivia first gained recognition in the late 2010s with her lead roles on the Disney TV shows Bizaardvark and High School Musical: The Musical: The Series. Now in her singing and songwriting era, both trades have their own unique challenges she says. “I think they’re hard and fun,” she explains. “One of my favorite things about music is how independent you can be. How truly, at the end of the day, you make almost every decision. You decide what lyric it is, you decide what melody it is, you come up with the idea for the music video. It’s very centered on you… but I think there’s something so beautiful about being an actor and being part of a set and just being a teammate. There’s something really beautiful in that camaraderie, so I like them both for different reasons.”

Growing up as a child actor certainly helped with Olivia’s ability to show vulnerability in her music and performances. “I think it helped with singing too,” she says. “Sometimes to get a good vocal performance I think I have to tap into that acting skill. It’s actually funny. My producer, Dan… Sometimes if I’m not giving a vocal performance that he thinks is emotional enough he’ll literally record me, and by just recording me I’ll inherently give a better vocal performance. Because I’m used to being filmed, and being emotional from my childhood or something, I dunno –– life hack!”

Olivia recently became friends with one of her musical idols after bumping into each other at the Met Gala. “Oh my God, what is my life?” Olivia asks in disbelief. Gwen Stefani, she says, “really inspired me as a songwriter when I was just starting out. We had a talk… she was so wonderful and really supportive and sweet.” We’re not sure if this counts as supportive as much, but Gwen did send her a video a few months ago of a rattlesnake curled up in the corner of her room. Ranch life with Blake Shelton, we suppose. “I would burn the house down and move away,” Olivia says. “I don’t know how she does it.”

She better start clearing her schedule though, Olivia just got asked to go to prom! After never going to her own, one of her “regrets” in life, she was asked to go by a fan during her vampire release party. Although she has no details to share yet –– if circumstances allow, she says she’d love to one day finally wear that corsage.

Don’t miss Bru’s full Audacy Check In with Olivia Rodrigo above, and stay tuned for even more conversations with your favorite stars and artists on Audacy.com/Live.

Olivia Rodrigo’s GUTS is scheduled for release on September 8.

Words by Joe Cingrana
Interview by Bru
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